Open Discussion of Current Issues

[0:00] We'll still be dealing with a couple of the questions or issues that you have submitted, and I don't know how long it'll take us to get through these, but we're in no hurry. So this has to do with allow for discussion among the members.

[0:19] We can learn from each other more time for participation, and we will do that this morning in connection with another subject that was handed in, and this question is, how do we as men deal with the anti-male white hatred that is permeating this country?

[0:46] And this, of course, is the woke position that is being espoused throughout the nation and has been embraced by many, and has led to all kinds of what we would call aberrations and abnormalities, chiefest of which is the position that if you are white, you are automatically an oppressor.

[1:17] And if you are a person of color, you are the oppressed, and it is the whites that oppress the colored.

[1:28] And because we as whites are in the majority, we exercise an ability that they do not have, and it is unfair, and the whole issue is we are to apologize for our whiteness, and to seek to redress it however we can.

[1:52] And you know what? I'll tell you what this is leading to, okay? What this is leading to is then a demand for reparations. What is that?

[2:03] That is leading to a demand for the U.S. government ponying up a considerable amount of cash to be given to the oppressed and to be paid by the oppressors.

[2:23] Now this is an extreme aberration, but it's akin to what is going on. Fellas, over the past couple of years, I have made an emphasis of a theme, and I'm going to say it again, because never has it become so obvious as it has been over the past several months.

[2:43] And that is, a statement has been made, and I've made it a number of times, that in our first parents' fallenness, the fall was complete.

[2:56] It impacted every aspect of their being, which they in turn passed on to their children.

[3:09] Cain and Abel, which passed it on to their children, which passed it on to their children, which passed it on to you and to me, and we are all recipients of it.

[3:20] That fallenness. And what I'm talking about is, the principal area that allows this kind of stuff to come to the surface is the fallenness of our intellectual properties.

[3:36] The fallenness of our ability to assess information and reach right conclusions leading to right actions.

[3:46] Our fall has been in totality. It has impacted our thinking processes. Scripture makes it quite clear.

[4:00] The Lord says, Your thoughts are not my thoughts, saith the Lord. Neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

[4:14] I think this is Jeremiah 17, 9, something like that, if it didn't move. And that is simply saying, God has a different viewpoint than we do.

[4:27] God has a divine viewpoint that allows Him to take everything into consideration. We have an extremely limited viewpoint that causes us sometimes to be unable to take into consideration all that is involved and reach a conclusion because we usually don't even know all that is involved.

[4:52] So our understanding is very limited. And this permeates the whole of humanity, all over the world. Nobody's escaped this. You and I, along with everybody else, have a fallen intellect.

[5:08] Reasoning, properties, logic, abilities, they are all impaired. Now do you understand how it is that this is exacerbated, intensified in this present age where people come up with the weirdest, the kookiest, the most bizarre ideas and concepts that has ever been perpetrated upon the human race?

[5:38] Such as, if you don't like being a man, you can be a woman. You can even have your body parts changed or adapted to accommodate you.

[5:53] And this kind of nonsensical thinking is derived from an evolutionary point of view that says there is no God, there is no divine standard.

[6:06] That's all wrong.

[6:36] things like maleness and femaleness in an entirely different category. See what I'm saying? If there is no intentionality, no deliberateness behind creation, it's just a fluke, then maleness and femaleness, that's a fluke too.

[6:56] And the whole concept and idea of abortion. Why not? What's wrong with that? If there is no overriding standard, if there is no moral compass, no moral north pole to give us direction, then every man does what is right in his own eyes.

[7:17] And you have your truth, and I have my truth, and the fact that they may be completely opposite, doesn't mean that either one of us is wrong.

[7:30] We're both right. That way, there's no conflict. You have your truth, I have my truth, and we're both right, even though they contradict each other.

[7:42] You see what this does to the concept of morality? It is every man does what is right in his own eyes.

[7:53] That goes all the way back to the Old Testament. Writer, was it Judges? I'm not sure. In the Old Testament. It says, There was no king in Israel in those days, so every man did what was right in his own eyes.

[8:15] Now what's that saying? You see, the king, fellas, morality or immorality begins at the top.

[8:29] That's where the standard is set. And everything flows down from the top. And when there is no king to give direction and moral properties, then it's up to the individual.

[8:46] And everyone does what is right in their own eyes. And this is reinforced by that famous quote from Theodor Dostoevsky in the Brothers Karamazov. If there is no God, all things are permitted.

[9:01] You see? This is where the world as a whole is coming from. We need to understand this. This is how they reach the conclusion that abortion is no big deal.

[9:13] It is just a blob of tissue. That's all. That's all. When you adopt that point of view, that's the conclusion you reach. And maleness and femaleness, if you don't want to be one sex, you can be the other.

[9:25] Why not? Why not? You see? The standard is gone because it begins at the top. So what we've got is a situation that is developing now.

[9:37] And personally, it's difficult. It's very difficult not to see this as the beginning of the end. Now, please don't quote me and go out of here saying, Mars says the Lord is coming next week.

[9:51] I'm not saying anything of the kind. All I'm saying is, as I've often said, we're closer than anybody's ever been. And that the way things are shaping up now gives us reason to believe what we know this, we've never been here before.

[10:10] Have we? No. Not as crazy. No. We've never been here before. And as this intensifies, it looks very much like those who do hold solid, identifiable values because we adopt our values from not only a higher source, but from the higher source, we are going to find ourselves less and less tolerated as time goes on.

[10:49] Prepare yourself to be an obstacle. You are in the way. You people who have these old-fashioned fixed moral values need to shut up and get out of the way and make room for the new world order.

[11:17] You're going to be hearing this more and more. And we who have standards and values are going to be less and less appreciated and the time will come and I don't know that it's going to be in our generation or not and I'm not saying it is, but I will say this, I wouldn't be surprised if it were.

[11:37] That it's going to turn from being ostracized, being marginalized, to being persecuted.

[11:50] It's just a matter of the heat being applied. So this is eventually what's coming. I don't know if we're going to be the sufferers of it or if it will be our grandkids or their grandkids. But I do know it's coming eventually.

[12:03] And when we get our standards from the standard bearer and attempt to live by them and proclaim them, that is not appreciated by the world.

[12:13] And that's where we're at. So we need to understand that. And in connection with the anti-male white hatred thing that is permeating the country, it's taken hold.

[12:29] I don't know how far it's going to go. I don't know to what degree it will become the order of the day, but this is what they are trying to make it. And the whole concept is they are attempting actually, what's taking place is they are following an age-old maxim.

[12:51] And it goes something like this. If you want to conquer an entity, divide it. And it's easier to conquer a half at a time than it is to conquer the whole thing.

[13:08] And you use, you find an issue that causes people to line up on one side or the other. And what it is now is race.

[13:24] Actually, that isn't one, if I were engineering this thing, that's not one that I would have picked for the simple reason that for a lot of people it's going to be a hard sell and it's going to be a hard sell for a whole lot of Caucasians, a whole lot of white people, it's going to be a hard sell because we know, we know for a fact we have, as a nation, come a long, long way from slavery.

[13:55] A long way. And there are those who are advocating this woke nonsense nonsense that not nearly the progress has been made that we think has been made.

[14:07] And this is where the reparation thing is going to come in and all the rest of it. So, the idea is to separate and to try as best you can to lay a guilt trip.

[14:21] And you'd be surprised how many people are susceptible to this. Lay a guilt trip on the white. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for being white. You are the problem.

[14:32] You are the oppressor. And the position they take, the position they take is if you are, if you are a minority, you cannot be a racist.

[14:50] In order to be a racist, you have to be in the majority. Now, you would be surprised how many people buy into that. And do you know where it came from?

[15:03] Those who are advocating this. There's no basis for that. Anyone, anyone who holds it against another person because of their skin color, that is the dictionary definition of a racist.

[15:23] And it doesn't make any difference what your skin color is. If you are white and you have it in for those who are black or yellow or Chinese or Asian or whatever, you're a racist.

[15:38] That's racism. And if you are black and you have it in for whites because they're white, you're a racist. You're just a black racist.

[15:48] That's the only difference. So don't let anybody tell you, oh, you have to be in the minority in order not to be a racist. That's nonsense. Don't let anybody sell you that.

[16:00] But that's what's out there. So what we're talking about is an effort on the part of the, I don't know what you would call them, but woke or whatever, to divide the nation with the idea of conquering.

[16:14] And as you look about it, it's things that are going on, and by the way, stuff like spending. Do you have any idea what this is doing to wreck the economy?

[16:28] And on the other hand, for the unsuspecting, it looks like we're just dealing with a really generous government. They're spending all this money. They're giving away all this money.

[16:38] Isn't it wonderful? It isn't always wonderful. It's stupid. But it's part of the plan. Because the idea is to wreck, believe me fellas, the objective is to wreck the economy.

[16:54] Wreck it! Because that creates more chaos and more confusion. And the more people you have living in a sphere of confusion, the easier they are to control and take over.

[17:06] That's the whole plan. This is the way it works in Europe, and this is the way it works anywhere people are people. And this is where we're going. This is the game plan.

[17:18] And the big objective of course is globalism. It's the whole world order. And we've already gotten a start on that because we look at the absolute insanity of an open border where just anybody from anywhere comes in.

[17:40] that is on the cusp of losing your nationality, losing your national identity.

[17:54] That's the plan. That's part of it. Because it's working toward a one world order. And that's exactly where we're going and you can see harbingers of it every day.

[18:07] So, how do we as men deal with the anti-male white hatred that is permeating this country? Well, I've waxed eloquent now.

[18:20] Let's hear something from you. Joe, what? You can see how the wrecking of the economy which is going on now is going to create the situations that Matthew tells in 24.

[18:36] Matthew, Jesus tells about the end times. Starvation is hitting the world right now. You would not believe the number of countries right now in Africa and different places that were being helped by UNICEF and all this good economy, the overflow of food.

[18:55] We had more food we needed and everything so we could give it to them. Now, there is not this bonus, this surplus. People are dying. Kids, hundreds of kids are dying right now from starvation, which is predicted will occur, and inflation.

[19:13] We're at the inflation where people can't buy and money doesn't go around. More poor, poor, poor people. It's happening just like the Bible says.

[19:24] Just exactly what some of the catastrophes that are going to happen were on the start. But, Marv, I disagree with you one place that it's not imminent. Because, if we go back to the flood, when did the flood occur to destroy mankind?

[19:39] There was only a teeny tiny people left, you know, and the iniquity had to get really bad before God took that action, the iniquity in the world.

[19:50] Well, we've got a lot of iniquity, but I think you're going to have such an iniquity that when the rapture comes, people say people are going to, you know, airplanes are going to fall because they'll miss it and trucks will crash.

[20:01] I don't think so. Because I think when the rapture comes, there's going to be very few living, acting Christians because of this woke thing and so forth.

[20:13] Our kids are going to be associated with the world and they're not going to be Christian. Unless you self-teach right now, have homeschooling right now, your kids get all this otherworldly influence and kids.

[20:28] You lose them. That's what families do. They lose their kids right now because of the impact of the world. And that's going to happen more and more and more until we get down, until the body of Christ on earth is going to be the size of this room right here.

[20:45] Okay, I agree with everything you said, Joe. And the idea is, the financial thing, the economic thing, is deliberately to bring about an increase in poverty and to lessen self-sufficiency because nobody is easier to control than people without means.

[21:11] They are desperate, they are needy, and they are easy to control, and easy to press demands upon because they are dependent.

[21:21] That's the whole idea. Get as many dependent people as you can on as few as possible, and that's the oligarchy, and they do the controlling, and this is as old as the hills.

[21:32] This goes way, way back. But it's the methodology, and it has worked so well in so many places, and it has absolutely destroyed entire civilizations, and they're working on this.

[21:44] And let me tell you this, behind it all, there is the stroke of the master mind. He is behind the curtain, pulling the strings, and utilizing people who have no clue that they're even being used.

[22:04] They are, was it, I don't remember which one it was, I don't know if it was Marx or Engels or one of them, but referred to them as the useful idiots.

[22:16] A useful idiot is someone who is part of the program and being used every day in every way, and he doesn't even have a clue that he's being used.

[22:29] That's the greatest con of all. To con someone, to con the mark, and the mark doesn't even know he's being conned. That's exactly what's going on. Someone else, thank you, Joe, for your contribution.

[22:41] Roger? I think there is a multifaceted attack on the economy. CRT, money, devaluing money, it's all, it's to cause chaos, so that the big boys, the world can take over easier.

[23:03] Absolutely. And getting back to your making people poor, as long as they're individuals, they're easy to control, but when they get into a mob, like a big city or something, then you're going to have to use force to put them down.

[23:19] Right, exactly. That's the way it works. It's just, everything is just coming from all angles. Yep, yep. The education and the stupid thing about the changing sexes and all, it's just not about just being white, but if they can get us to shut up, and not do anything, then everything falls in easy.

[23:42] The idea is to create chaos, because when you've got chaos, you don't know who to believe, you don't know what to believe, you hear all of these conflicting, and you know what?

[23:55] The COVID thing really touched that off. You've got all these so-called experts and authorities out there that are taking all kind of different positions regarding the COVID, the vaccination, the non-vax, the boosters, and all the rest of it, and it gets to the place where you shake your head and say, man, I don't know who to believe.

[24:18] All these guys are all professionals and they're all experts and they have all the degrees, but they disagree with each other. So how am I supposed to know where to line up with this?

[24:29] Larry? As Christians, shouldn't we feel an urgency to spread the good news?

[24:41] Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I'd be concerned about that, the other things. Yeah, it's going to happen, things happen, but shouldn't our main focus be on spreading the good news to others, saving those people?

[24:57] Yes. Well, absolutely. Absolutely. Because what we're talking about is the principle, and Larry just spelled it out. Man's extremity is God's opportunity.

[25:12] Man's extremity is man facing uncertainty and weakness, and that provides a tremendous opening for the gospel.

[25:25] And that's the main thing that we need to keep in mind. We do have the panacea. We have the curative, and it is the gospel. So, you make as much of it as you can, because it's the only thing that works.

[25:41] And by the way, isn't it sweet, isn't it wonderful that the word gospel means good news? in the midst of all this garbage that's taking place, there is that ray of light.

[25:58] That is good news. Dan, you had something. one of the things that happens if you look at the thought that is going on, it usually comes out of the major urban areas of the United States, New York, Washington, California, the full state, the west coast, Oregon.

[26:20] If you look at what's in between, I've traveled some. I see this as a distinction between the woke and the non-woke.

[26:33] Yeah. You know, if you get into Nebraska, you're not going to see a lot of that. Right. If you get into these midwest states, you're not going to see it. Where's the media located?

[26:45] And the media has one thing. They want to create fear. And by creating fear, what they will do is get this country worked up. And I also think that China and Russia are manipulating this media, we know they are, to divide us.

[27:01] Yeah. They're doing their fair share. Yes. Oh, yeah. So we're very vulnerable. And I'm not saying I have hope, but I think I'm seeing this for what it is, a divided country engineered by a few.

[27:16] Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Roger, what do you have? We spent six nights with Joe McGarvey, a Bible doctor, conference, Bible study every night, and he goes around the country for vacation Bible schools.

[27:31] Mm-hmm. And he could not wait the first night to tell us people are not receptive to the gospel anymore. Mm-hmm. And he was more concerned of the people that he thought were saved, are they really saved?

[27:46] Yeah. churches today are like a big club, and they're not getting the message of the good news that you speak of. Absolutely. Absolutely.

[27:57] He's really concerned about it. Yeah, well, he ought to be. I'll tell you, like Roger was saying, and like Joel was saying, as the screws tighten, the true faithful are going to be more and more critical in their involvement, and those whom many believe to be on the team are all of a sudden going to be AWOL.

[28:27] What happened to them? Well, the values that the few hold so dear are not shared by a lot of people that we thought shared them, and what has caused them to show their true colors is the heat being on, and all of a sudden, it's not so important to believe what they thought they believed or what they used to believe.

[28:51] It's a lot more comfortable and easier sledding going along with the majority. Besides, if you can't beat them, join them. And that's exactly what's going to be happening.

[29:03] Is that that falling away the Bible mentions in one of the Paul's epistles falling away? Is that losing their faith or just not showing it?

[29:15] Absolutely. I think that's exactly what he's talking about. And John's talking about it too. And it's significant that John, and I'm talking about in the epistles in 1, 2, and 3 John, which are very much kingdom oriented as opposed to grace oriented like the Pauline epistles, apostles.

[29:37] And John makes the observation about those who went out from us. And he says, and they went out from us because they were not really of us.

[29:51] But they put on a good show for a while until the going got tough. And then they bailed. because they didn't want to be on the receiving end of the persecution and the ridicule and the ostracizing and everything that went with it.

[30:08] Well, it just wasn't worth it. So they just gave it up and joined the majority. They were not true believers at all. They were just hangers on. Yes, Larry? Well, I don't want you to think I'm blind, but I don't want the Elijah complex where he's, oh Lord, I'm just the last one.

[30:28] I'm, you know, God told him he said, there's 7,000. There's people that, so when we start thinking about, you know, we're the only ones left.

[30:40] Well, I hear you, I hear you, I hear you, Larry, but so far as the body of Christ is concerned, we are the only ones left.

[30:53] All the majority is the rest of the world. And it's just exactly like the Lord said, the Lord said, what Elijah, you know, call it the Elijah concept, or the Elijah, you know, I'm the only one left.

[31:05] Woe is me. Everybody is sold out but me. I'm the only one standing. And the Lord said, the Lord said, wait a minute. I've got 7,000 that have not bowed the knee to Baal.

[31:18] But let me ask you something. What's the ratio of 7,000 compared to the rest? A tiny minority.

[31:29] And you know something? Be reminded, God has always worked with the minority. Always. You know when that started?

[31:40] Noah. Noah. How much of a minority was he? And what was everybody else? Woke, if you will.

[31:52] Woke, yeah. Or something like that. Yeah, yeah. So it's been around for a long time. Hey, what we're talking about, guys, is simply this. Mankind in his fallenness has not changed one whit.

[32:06] we've developed more modern, sophisticated means of this and that and the other. But we haven't made a better human. Only the gospel of regeneration can do that.

[32:20] So that's why we come back to this one singular soul good news, the gospel.

[32:31] and it's still the only good news that really matters. It's the only good news that regenerates, that saves, that lifts you out of depression and everything else. Yeah, Dennis?

[32:41] I was going to say that I like this Bible study because iron sharpens iron so we get encouragement to go and do what's right.

[32:52] Well, I appreciate that. And thank you. And that's part of what we're all about. Part of what we're all about is we just kind of link arms together and try to stand together, enlighten one another, encourage one another.

[33:07] And this is why the writer of Hebrews says, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together. He's talking about church, about being in church, being with an assembly of believers.

[33:20] Why? Because we need each other. We're supposed to need each other. We're not meant or intended to be isolationist or individualist. We are members of a body.

[33:33] And Paul recognizes that. He talks about the eyes and the arms and the legs. And because an arm is just an arm, it's is it not therefore part of the body? The body needs everybody in the body.

[33:46] And when we get together, we are mutual encouragement, enlightenment, and everything else that goes along with it. So, no man is an island, no man stands alone. Boy, is that ever true in the Christian faith.

[33:58] What, Joe? Why do you think that Putin, that Russia, attacked Ukraine? Ukraine was doing nothing to attack them, threatening them at all.

[34:11] They were doing nothing to them. But here, Russia, all of a sudden, decides for their security, they need to take Ukraine. Now, that's the way the world is going to be going more and more, because you've got to have food to eat and live.

[34:27] You've got to have energy and gas and all this. All this economy stuff is coming into play now, and it's going to come into a bigger way all the time. Oh, yeah. And it's going to have conflict after conflict share, because I need what they got.

[34:43] You know, in 10 years, I may not have enough of this, so I better get some of it now, so I got it for 40 years. That's why Putin went into Ukraine to take it.

[34:54] They weren't threatened to be hurt or, you know, they weren't under attack at all. And if they won't give it to us, we'll take it. It's a survival thing. It gets down to just survival. And so there's going to be more and more countries, and as it gets worse, that need to do things for survival.

[35:12] Right now, we are still pretty good for survival, but people are starting to think, hey, we may not have enough of this or that or that and so forth. So it's just all coming down to that.

[35:24] It sure looks like it. It sure does look like it. Anybody else? Comment? Yeah, Rog? I take comfort in the fact that God's setting up there wherever, looking at this stupidity and insanity of these so-called leaders.

[35:38] He knows he's going to get the last laugh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's the joke. Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's hard to say it can't get any stupider than this, but it probably will.

[35:51] Yeah. Well, there is, I'm sure, I wonder if there's a limit to our stupidity. I remember reading an anecdote about the famous math genius, Albert Einstein, and someone was interviewing him.

[36:08] And, of course, he came up with the different theories and ideas, and everybody, I think, is pretty much persuaded that Einstein was one of the greatest brains that ever lived.

[36:19] and he, in an interview, somebody asked him and said, someone said that that they thought that there was not really all that much difference between ignorance and genius.

[36:35] What do you think about that? Do you see a difference between ignorance and genius? and Einstein says, well, genius has its limitations.

[36:50] Yeah, so, you can kind of draw your own conclusion. Genius has its limitations, but, fellas, there's no limitation on ignorance.

[37:05] And the stuff that you see happening right now, like this dysphoria, and, you know, the thing that is so disheartening to me about this dysphoria thing, about surgical institutions, and I'm talking now about Nashville, and Vanderbilt University, that has cranked out some of the most brilliant physicians and doctors, they are actually, these are, these guys, these are MDs.

[37:50] We tend to think of the medical profession as being a breed apart, don't we? I mean, we know they don't know everything, but we also know they know a lot more than we do, and yet, these creme de la creme of humanity are actually engaging in and promoting sex change operations for children five and six years old?

[38:18] Are you kidding me? What is going on there? Well, I'll tell you what, if you're coming from the position that in the beginning God made them male and female, you're not going to be doing that.

[38:33] You're not going to be doing that. You're going to say, that is contrary to nature. But, when man is in charge of what is nature and what is not nature, why not?

[38:45] Why not? If there is no God, all things are permitted. And that's exactly where we are. So they are, and from what I hear, and what I've read about this, they are making a ton of money from these kind of surgical operations where they are attempting to change the sexual organs and arrangement of children with parents who obviously are on board with it.

[39:18] It's just, it's JPN, just plain nuts. And you're going to see more and more of it because it's going to intensify as time goes on.

[39:29] Dan? Marv, I've been following the Ohio State Board of Education. They failed to pass a resolution restricting the use of sex change and all of this going on in public education.

[39:46] During the meeting, they had several proponents there. During one of the intermissions, three of the ladies who were for the resolution went in the bathroom.

[39:57] Two or three of those people followed them in there and stood around while they were in there. So that goes to tell you how militant they are, how, you know, sick they are.

[40:12] I'm not so sure the Board of Education knew it at that time because if not, they knew it now because I told them. But that's what's going on.

[40:25] And they're trying to develop the minds of these kids. That's what they're trying to do. Yeah. Yeah. But for that to happen, that's... Yeah, it is so bizarre and so contrary to everything that we've believed and accepted as decency and order and all the rest.

[40:42] And the younger crowd looks at us and says, well, that's just because you're so old, you're out of it, you know. You people need to get out of the way and make room for the new world that's coming.

[40:54] And that's what you're going to be hearing more and more of. And they are increasing in number and ours is decreasing in number. That's the way it is.

[41:06] That's just the simple math of it. But again, I want to emphasize this and I couldn't agree more with what Larry said. man's extremities is God's opportunity. And the gospel is still the good news.

[41:20] It still deserves to be proclaimed. It still provides us with an authoritative base of right and wrong and moral issues and all the rest of it. And you cannot take those cues from the world because the world doesn't even have a clue.

[41:36] So why are we here? What are we doing this? Because we are simply discovering what the biblical standards are. And by the way, guys, all of the biblical standards that God has set forth in the word are all for our blessing and benefit.

[41:55] God's not interested in raining on your parade. God wants what's best for you and for me. And he's created the world like that. And it is man in his fallenness that distorts and warps and ruins and messes up everything.

[42:15] So much so so much so that 2,000 years ago God sent someone into this world for the specific purpose of making the wrongs right.

[42:27] and he was going to bring something that would be called the kingdom of God come to earth. And that would simply restore a fallen broken world to its original creation wherein righteousness would prevail.

[42:48] And Israel that was to be the key leader in that effort said we don't want this man to reign over us thank you but no thanks.

[43:00] And they rejected him and as a result all the rest of the world has been put on hold with the evil intensifying and increasing.

[43:15] And the time is coming when a tiny amount of Jews minority again minority will be hold up and they will come to the conclusion you know what our ancestors who rejected Jesus as the Messiah had it wrong and they will discover in this small knit group I don't know how small it's going to be I mean there's going to be probably hundreds of thousands of people and there's going to be 144,000 of Jews alone who will be proclaiming the gospel and I don't want to get involved in the Petra thing but that's going to be involved and there's going to be a huge Bible class there and these people are going to be crying out to God to send the Messiah back this time we will not make the mistake that our forefathers did in rejecting him we will welcome him with open arms and Yeshua

[44:19] Bahamashiach will come and it's going to be wonderful when he does there's also going to be a small amount of Gentiles around too oh yeah there's not going to be the Gentiles like we got now either there'll be Gentile believers many of whom will be martyred already that's right yeah but there will be Gentile believers who will have been able to survive the tribulation Matthew 24 and 25 those who endure to the end will be saved and it's talking about they'll be they'll be spared they will live through it they will survive it and it's going to be tough living because hardest thing to find is going to be water to drink and food to eat but there will be survivors during that time and that's going to be a glorious time so we would say in conclusion even so come Lord Jesus amen so thank you all for being here this morning I appreciate all of your input and your comments you can see what we're up against but I want to tell you he that is in you is greater than he that is in the world and don't you ever forget it amen thank you thank you guys thank you thank you thank you